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Old 09-14-2009, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't know if anything like this has been posted before, or if I'm posting this in the right section, but I thought this information would be useful for those who rape gomez and get tired of dealing with 100% cpu usage.

First of all, if you don't know what a virtual machine is, google is your friend. The method behind this is the fact that by default, VMware is set up to use only CPU core per VM. So even at 100% CPU usage on the VM, on this host machine the CPU usage (due to gomez) will never increase:

-Above 50% on a dual-core processor.
-Above ~33% on a triple-core processor.
-Above 25% on a quad-core processor.

This means that you can load as many instances of gomez as you want without maxing out your CPU.

To achieve this, you need the following:
-A processor with 2+ cores
-Quite a bit of RAM, preferably (At the time of this posting, 6.33/8GB of my RAM is being used.
-VMware Workstation software
-A copy of Windows (ISO or CD/DVD)

Here's what you need to do, if you have any questions, feel free to ask me:
-Obtain a copy of VMware Workstation
-Create a VM and install Windows
-Install Gomez Peer and exploit it
-Configure GomezReload to load the desired number of instances
-Enjoy CPU anti-rape

VM -> Settings shows the option that makes this possible


Here is part of my task manager, showing that each VM does not use more than 25% cpu usage apiece:


Another note: The default value of RAM provided to each VM is 1024 MB. I would recommend ~2048 MB if you plan to run ~25 instances. (Current CPU usage on one of my VMs is 1.93 GB). This value can be changed in VM -> settings.

Also, if you are having problems with internet on the VM, I would make the network adapter settings (also in VM -> settings) look like this:


Well, there you have it. I was getting very frustrated at my CPU usage hitting 100% from that stupid, poorly written java program.

System information for those who are interested:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.0Ghz
8GB (4 x 2GB) PQI Turbo DDR2 800 RAM

Running 2 VMs, 50% cpu usage total, 25 Gomez Peer instances per VM.

That was quite a bit to type out. If you like this post, rep me?
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I never thought about that before, and just loaded a ton of instances on one computer. Nice
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is there not an easier way to accomplish the desired effect?
running another os on top of your current one is already going to put a moderate load on your cpu not counting gomez peer running in it
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is there not an easier way to accomplish the desired effect?
running another os on top of your current one is already going to put a moderate load on your cpu not counting gomez peer running in it
Get a second computer that's separate entirely.
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is there not an easier way to accomplish the desired effect?
running another os on top of your current one is already going to put a moderate load on your cpu not counting gomez peer running in it
This is the best way that I have been able to come up with to do this. The Gomez Peer java.exe is set to low priority by default, however, running 25+ instances on my host causes my cpu usage to climb to 100% sometimes and has a noticeable performance hit. With my method (with a quad), you can be botting ~75 instances (and 3 different accounts if you want) over 3 VMs and your cpu usage will never be >75% because of Gomez.

Actually, on my machine, the VM itself hardly uses any CPU at all, especially if you can find a good stripped version of Windows XP (YetiOS3.ELite.Edition *cough*).

This method also has a few other practical uses, for example, if you wanted to have a LOT of VMs running with 1 instance of Gomez on different accounts. You may have better luck getting a(n) account(s) activated.

@Ryutso Having a separate computer is nice, but this method makes your accounts easy to manage. Plus, this computer has more processing power/RAM then a handful of the other computers I have laying around put together.
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Sadly I can't use this. I have Vista and that takes up a good 3GB of RAM anyways.
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How much RAM do you have total? 4GB? Vista x86 or x64? Processor?

You can google some ways to reduce your idle RAM usage. It could be a lot lower than 3GB especially if its x86. I imagine you could get it down to 850-1000MB with some tweaking. Then dedicate 2GB to VMware. You can run ~25 peers without CPU rape. And still have 1GB left for whatever else.

The alternative is to buy some more ram. Its cheap.
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How much RAM do you have total? 4GB? Vista x86 or x64? Processor?

You can google some ways to reduce your idle RAM usage. It could be a lot lower than 3GB especially if its x86. I imagine you could get it down to 850-1000MB with some tweaking. Then dedicate 2GB to VMware. You can run ~25 peers without CPU rape. And still have 1GB left for whatever else.

The alternative is to buy some more ram. Its cheap.
6GB DDR2 x64 Vista Home Premium SP1.

Not a lot I can do to lower RAM usage. Tried.
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great post. i thought about going the whole vm route but decided to use the 4 computers i have and just double and in some cases triple the ram. its working out good for all my accounts. plus if gomez ever tanks i'll have some nice computers to exploit some other site.

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Not a lot I can do to lower RAM usage. Tried.
That's more than adequate to use VM+Gomez...depending on what kind of processor you have. If it's not 2+ cores my method is useless. Anyway, have you ever taken a look at the processes that start with your computer? Start->(In the search box) type msconfig->click the startup tab. Disable all non-vital processes. If you dont recognize the name, you can google it, and get an idea of whether its vital or not. For example "hsmgr" google'd and easily found out you dont wanna disable that. Anyway...reboot and notice a lower idle RAM usage.

You may already know this but oh well.

And @eNcrypTioN thanks. I have a laptop I am also exploiting gomez on. And another laptop and desktop when I get around to fixing them. I would recommending looking up the software "Dameware" it may benefit you as it has me
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Yeah I have a Quad-core, but I also use it for my work.

I may just do this with another computer once I get it.
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Yea, you can build a quad core rig yourself for pretty cheap actually. And quad core would be the best idea for gomez+VM. 4 accounts, 4 VMs, ~100 instances (theory. I could probably do about 75 with 8GB RAM), $180/mo. Hell, it would pay for itself in a few months.
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Yea, you can build a quad core rig yourself for pretty cheap actually. And quad core would be the best idea for gomez+VM. 4 accounts, 4 VMs, ~100 instances (theory. I could probably do about 75 with 8GB RAM), $180/mo. Hell, it would pay for itself in a few months.
Yeah that's what I was gonna do. But right now I can't pay for a Quad Core and 8GB.

So I'm gonna get a Core 2 Duo and 4GB DDR2 and work my way up from there for a coupe of months until I can get a third that is a Quad Core and 8GB RAM.
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Lowest priced Core 2 Quad on Newegg $149.99
Lowest priced Core 2 Duo on Newegg $118.99

$31 more for 2x cores and +1MB L2 cache. Just saying.

4GB ram = $50, 8GB ram=$100
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Hi all,

the idea of bottling those gomez instances into a VM is great. It also allows you to serve several accounts at a time
When I started using net limiter I found out that a reduced bandwidth also helps to reduce the CPU-time. e.g. when starting 40 instances of gomez my quadcore / 8 GB is almost loaded up to its limit. When reducing bandwidth to modem speed - which btw causes a lot less traffic and also credits - I can start up 60 instances at a time.

BTW: anyone knows a lean XP edition?

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Actually, on my machine, the VM itself hardly uses any CPU at all, especially if you can find a good stripped version of Windows XP (YetiOS3.ELite.Edition *cough*).
I think that's a valid build. Probably find it on Torrents.

EDIT: Drat it's not x64. I need a good small x64 build.

On a side note, why'd this guy get banned?
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I saw the Yeti distribuion, but couldn't get a hand on it. That's why I asked.

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Wow, check out THIS thread. Strait copy and paste of my method without credit. At least they liked it I guess ><...


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the idea of bottling those gomez instances into a VM is great. It also allows you to serve several accounts at a time
When I started using net limiter I found out that a reduced bandwidth also helps to reduce the CPU-time. e.g. when starting 40 instances of gomez my quadcore / 8 GB is almost loaded up to its limit. When reducing bandwidth to modem speed - which btw causes a lot less traffic and also credits - I can start up 60 instances at a time.

BTW: anyone knows a lean XP edition?

Thanx

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Actually, I've been getting BSOD on my VMs with netlimiter for some reason so I uninstalled it. Getting it to work is definitely on my to-do list.

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I think that's a valid build. Probably find it on Torrents.

EDIT: Drat it's not x64. I need a good small x64 build.

On a side note, why'd this guy get banned?
Temp ban for selling warez.

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I saw the Yeti distribuion, but couldn't get a hand on it. That's why I asked.

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I got YetiOS from my private tracker, which I won't be able to invite you to. It's also on Demonoid. I havent used them in a while so I don't know if they're still invite only or not, but if they are, you can PM me for an invite.


Anyway, where is my +rep for this thread -_-
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Wow, check out THIS thread. Strait copy and paste of my method without credit. At least they liked it I guess ><...




Actually, I've been getting BSOD on my VMs with netlimiter for some reason so I uninstalled it. Getting it to work is definitely on my to-do list.



Temp ban for selling warez.



I got YetiOS from my private tracker, which I won't be able to invite you to. It's also on Demonoid. I havent used them in a while so I don't know if they're still invite only or not, but if they are, you can PM me for an invite.


Anyway, where is my +rep for this thread -_-
Wow that's site has pretty much stolen everything from CN.

Question though: Is there a YetiOS x64 edition?

I'll give you rep when I actually put this into motion.
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64-bit operating systems are always heavier than 32-bit, so it makes sense that developers would focus on x86 only.

I am not aware of any lite XP-64 distributions but if I find one I'll be sure to let you know.

EDIT: Just realized that link was regarding YetiOS4. But I'm pretty sure the same applies to YetiOS3. Another thought, you could probably make an XP-64 install "lite" by removing unneeded features and stuff after installing.
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I don't know if anything like this has been posted before, or if I'm posting this in the right section, but I thought this information would be useful for those who rape gomez and get tired of dealing with 100% cpu usage.

First of all, if you don't know what a virtual machine is, google is your friend. The method behind this is the fact that by default, VMware is set up to use only CPU core per VM. So even at 100% CPU usage on the VM, on this host machine the CPU usage (due to gomez) will never increase:

-Above 50% on a dual-core processor.
-Above ~33% on a triple-core processor.
-Above 25% on a quad-core processor.

This means that you can load as many instances of gomez as you want without maxing out your CPU.

To achieve this, you need the following:
-A processor with 2+ cores
-Quite a bit of RAM, preferably (At the time of this posting, 6.33/8GB of my RAM is being used.
-VMware Workstation software
-A copy of Windows (ISO or CD/DVD)

Here's what you need to do, if you have any questions, feel free to ask me:
-Obtain a copy of VMware Workstation
-Create a VM and install Windows
-Install Gomez Peer and exploit it
-Configure GomezReload to load the desired number of instances
-Enjoy CPU anti-rape

VM -> Settings shows the option that makes this possible


Here is part of my task manager, showing that each VM does not use more than 25% cpu usage apiece:


Another note: The default value of RAM provided to each VM is 1024 MB. I would recommend ~2048 MB if you plan to run ~25 instances. (Current CPU usage on one of my VMs is 1.93 GB). This value can be changed in VM -> settings.

Also, if you are having problems with internet on the VM, I would make the network adapter settings (also in VM -> settings) look like this:


Well, there you have it. I was getting very frustrated at my CPU usage hitting 100% from that stupid, poorly written java program.

System information for those who are interested:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.0Ghz
8GB (4 x 2GB) PQI Turbo DDR2 800 RAM

Running 2 VMs, 50% cpu usage total, 25 Gomez Peer instances per VM.

That was quite a bit to type out. If you like this post, rep me?
Thank you for this useful post, what are the earnings per day with your setup?
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64-bit operating systems are always heavier than 32-bit, so it makes sense that developers would focus on x86 only.

I am not aware of any lite XP-64 distributions but if I find one I'll be sure to let you know.

EDIT: Just realized that link was regarding YetiOS4. But I'm pretty sure the same applies to YetiOS3. Another thought, you could probably make an XP-64 install "lite" by removing unneeded features and stuff after installing.
Argh.

I'd really rather get it from people who know what they're doing.

*sigh*.......How would I make an XP-64 ISO lite? What programs would I use?

Also, would YetiOS3 be a legit copy if I used one of Pip's Keys?
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Thank you for this useful post, what are the earnings per day with your setup?
Well. In one VM I have 25 instances which earn me ~$3.50+/day. You can run more VMs on the same account to double/triple/etc your earnings...or you can use a different accounts etc.

Two of my activated accounts have hit the $45/month limit. My third is at $34.46, but will also be maxed out by the end of the month because I'm exploiting it with 2 VMs and my laptop. Right now I've earned $6.07 today with that account.

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Argh.

I'd really rather get it from people who know what they're doing.

*sigh*.......How would I make an XP-64 ISO lite? What programs would I use?

Also, would YetiOS3 be a legit copy if I used one of Pip's Keys?
Well...you may want to check out this:
nLite - Deployment Tool for the bootable Unattended Windows installation

I used this software once to slipstream a SATA driver into an ISO and to make an unattended install disc. It also has the ability to remove certain Windows components.

This is probably about as close as you're going to get to what you want to accomplish.

EDIT: Yes, you could use one of PiPs keys, you wouldn't get any trouble from Microsoft. Just make sure that you request an XP x64 key. Also, cracking it with a WGA patch is another option.
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Old 09-28-2009, 12:37 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Well. In one VM I have 25 instances which earn me ~$3.50+/day. You can run more VMs on the same account to double/triple/etc your earnings...or you can use a different accounts etc.

Two of my activated accounts have hit the $45/month limit. My third is at $34.46, but will also be maxed out by the end of the month because I'm exploiting it with 2 VMs and my laptop. Right now I've earned $6.07 today with that account.

I have two activated accounts and with 45 instances i make about 1.20 (at 2GB Ram) on one machine a day plus 60 ( at 512MB RAM) cents on a laptop.
no vm, no netlimiter, running vista 32bit and xp in normal mode.

what am I doing wrong and what zip code are u using? i heard it depends on that one...

thanks so much for your help!

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Old 09-28-2009, 01:28 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Well you said you have 2 activated accounts with 45 instances but don't use a VM. That is kindof confusing. Are you trying to use both accounts on the same IP? I think that might have something to do with it but I'm not positive.

And mjhasbach, let me get this right so I completely understand this. You have 1 account without a VM, and 2 other separate accounts on another 2 VM's? In short, 3 separate activated accounts, one on main + 2 separate VM's with 25 instances on each?

Another question, is it mandatory to have separate accounts per VM or can you use the same account? (Or is it like 1 account for IP)?

Also, you do what you said in your first post so computer usage doesn't go up correct? And this works because the CPU usage goes up in the VM's and doesn't all go up on your main OS?

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