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impuLsivE · 06-14-2008, 04:27 PM

A few weeks ago, I emailed Club Live regarding a old account I found that I ordered an item out. When I ordered it, I accidentally made the address "9G" instead of my full address which I dont know how that happened. I emailed them and told them If they could change it, and re-send it. They told me that my account had unfair game advantage and that I was cheating and that they wouldn't reply about this situation anymore. This is coming from an account which had an item ordered from August 2007 I believe it was.

My question now is: If I continue doing CL, will I get my shit or no? I've gotten 1x Vista, 2x Camcorder, 2x irobots, and 2x GPS from them....do you think what they told me was just a scare tactic or?...

I want to continue botting CL, but not sure if its worth it.

TJ · 06-14-2008, 04:29 PM

I would keep botting.

mighty1u2 · 06-14-2008, 04:30 PM

test it out by botting just a little and order something small

SKy Scripter · 06-14-2008, 04:33 PM

Yeh before i make a bot and start macroing want to i learn more about this...

i mean can you get in serious trouble for playing a game the way you play it?

dont.blink. · 06-14-2008, 04:44 PM

they aren't going to check the address, way too many people play.. they're just going to ban the account if they detected you as cheating, and move on. I'm sure you'll get prizes if you continue botting.

7usabball · 06-14-2008, 07:23 PM

agreed with dont.blink

kiteman · 06-17-2008, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dont.blink.

they aren't going to check the address, way too many people play.. they're just going to ban the account if they detected you as cheating, and move on. I'm sure you'll get prizes if you continue botting.

I am not saying you are wrong in what you say, but your logic is REALLY faulty. If they don't check/cross check addresses, it is not because there are so many people playing the games. I am not sure if you have heard about this new invention called a COMPUTER, and software like ACCESS (made by...Microsoft) but using these things, crosschecking even billions of addresses is pretty much instantaneous.

dont.blink. · 06-17-2008, 07:05 PM

they aren't doing it because it's so easy to get around.. use ave., avenue, avenu .. 0 or O, add #s to the end, make tiny misspellings.. it's not hard to get around a string comparison

dont.blink. · 06-17-2008, 07:06 PM

it's easy to get around a string comparison; use ave., avenue, avenu, 0 or O, add #1 to the end, etc.. I'm sure they know this

rpg811 · 06-17-2008, 07:18 PM

Wtf is with the posts happening on 06.18.2008? WOW

Fallen Soul · 06-18-2008, 03:17 PM

Yeah I would continue botting, but how do you email them cause I want to send them an email regarding an account I used to have too.

dont.blink. · 06-18-2008, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiteman

I am not saying you are wrong in what you say, but your logic is REALLY faulty. If they don't check/cross check addresses, it is not because there are so many people playing the games. I am not sure if you have heard about this new invention called a COMPUTER, and software like ACCESS (made by...Microsoft) but using these things, crosschecking even billions of addresses is pretty much instantaneous.

I can guarantee they don't check addresses, but, please do give me the algorithm that can check a billion addresses for duplicates instantaneously.

Guo0 · 06-18-2008, 05:13 PM

Continue to play.

Also, for searching addresses, it is easy as hell. There is this thing called "Find" and Filter.

Btw, I doubt there are billions of addresses pertains to CL. If there are billions, the Live Search engine would be the biggest lucrative internet search engine after GOOGLE.

and for the algorithm? wtf? their whole program is the algorithm

sweetdreams · 06-18-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Soul

Yeah I would continue botting, but how do you email them cause I want to send them an email regarding an account I used to have too.

lsclub@microsoft.com

NathanCT · 06-18-2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guo0

Continue to play.

Also, for searching addresses, it is easy as hell. There is this thing called "Find" and Filter.

Btw, I doubt there are billions of addresses pertains to CL. If there are billions, the Live Search engine would be the biggest lucrative internet search engine after GOOGLE.

and for the algorithm? wtf? their whole program is the algorithm

True, they have the resources and the ability to check it up in seconds. However, seeing how they're Microsoft, I think they would be too lazy to check it up.

On the contrary, since botting is so easy, it wouldn't hurt much even if they failed to send the gifts out.

Stev · 06-18-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dont.blink.

I can guarantee they don't check addresses, but, please do give me the algorithm that can check a billion addresses for duplicates instantaneously.

There arent billions and billions of addresses, but i maintain a database that has many millions of records that takes only a few minutes to pull detailed reports off of. Pretty sure MS has more resources and better hardware than where i work.

Not saying they do or dont, but my guess is if your info has been flagged, MS has the ability to search ur info with ease. And since its well known that people are botting, i could easily see them do a cross reference when an item gets sent out to see if it matches the same info as a flagged botter... just as easy as i could see the system being automated to a point where u just get your stuff and next to no human interaction occurs to stop it.

Either way, try it and see what happens. U really dont have anything to lose.

Blink · 06-18-2008, 06:02 PM

ok....so stev do this for us......get a job and spend your whole day searching for addresses...who would want to do that?and btw if you get caught botting just make another email account...

Stev · 06-18-2008, 06:12 PM

with this volume it would be easy to have an automated system that runs a report and if it comes up with matches it sends it to a person. Who basicly just says no this info is very similar to a flagged account, they dont get their stuff.

Paying that person 9.50/hr would pay for themselves in the first 30 min of their day of not giving away 'unearned' prizes.

I'm not saying they do this, just saying it's very possible. It just makes logical business sense... whether or not MS is on the ball, i dont know. Just simply saying the ability to set up a query to trigger when u press the order button is pretty simple to send it to a person to review if the query yields any results.

06-14-2008, 04:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
impuLsivE i hate titles... Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,632 Reputation: 86 *cBay Rating:*	Question about being banned and what not. A few weeks ago, I emailed Club Live regarding a old account I found that I ordered an item out. When I ordered it, I accidentally made the address "9G" instead of my full address which I dont know how that happened. I emailed them and told them If they could change it, and re-send it. They told me that my account had unfair game advantage and that I was cheating and that they wouldn't reply about this situation anymore. This is coming from an account which had an item ordered from August 2007 I believe it was. My question now is: If I continue doing CL, will I get my shit or no? I've gotten 1x Vista, 2x Camcorder, 2x irobots, and 2x GPS from them....do you think what they told me was just a scare tactic or?... I want to continue botting CL, but not sure if its worth it.

06-17-2008, 07:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
rpg811 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 691 Reputation: 22 *cBay Rating:*	Wtf is with the posts happening on 06.18.2008? WOW __________________ My things from Club Live: 7x Xbox 360 controllers for windows- Order confirm, ordered June 29, 2008 1x Office 2007-shipped, recieving June 30, 2008 3x Office 2007-ordered, order confirm, ordered June 19, 2008

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Guo0 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 775 Reputation: 46 *cBay Rating:*	Continue to play. Also, for searching addresses, it is easy as hell. There is this thing called "Find" and Filter. Btw, I doubt there are billions of addresses pertains to CL. If there are billions, the Live Search engine would be the biggest lucrative internet search engine after GOOGLE. and for the algorithm? wtf? their whole program is the algorithm __________________ Pm me if you want an invite[JACT]. Email required.

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Blink Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 663 Reputation: 6 *cBay Rating:*	ok....so stev do this for us......get a job and spend your whole day searching for addresses...who would want to do that?and btw if you get caught botting just make another email account... __________________

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06-14-2008, 04:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
TJ Social Engineering Expert Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 999 Reputation: 80 *cBay Rating:*	I would keep botting.

06-14-2008, 04:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
mighty1u2 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 227 Reputation: 14 *cBay Rating:*	test it out by botting just a little and order something small

06-14-2008, 04:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
SKy Scripter Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 209 Reputation: 63 *cBay Rating:*	Yeh before i make a bot and start macroing want to i learn more about this... i mean can you get in serious trouble for playing a game the way you play it?

06-14-2008, 04:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
dont.blink. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 652 Reputation: 26 *cBay Rating:*	they aren't going to check the address, way too many people play.. they're just going to ban the account if they detected you as cheating, and move on. I'm sure you'll get prizes if you continue botting.

06-14-2008, 07:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
7usabball Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,856 Reputation: 67 *cBay Rating:*	agreed with dont.blink

06-17-2008, 07:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
dont.blink. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 652 Reputation: 26 *cBay Rating:*	they aren't doing it because it's so easy to get around.. use ave., avenue, avenu .. 0 or O, add #s to the end, make tiny misspellings.. it's not hard to get around a string comparison

06-17-2008, 07:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
dont.blink. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 652 Reputation: 26 *cBay Rating:*	it's easy to get around a string comparison; use ave., avenue, avenu, 0 or O, add #1 to the end, etc.. I'm sure they know this

06-18-2008, 03:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
Fallen Soul Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 588 Reputation: 34 *cBay Rating:*	Yeah I would continue botting, but how do you email them cause I want to send them an email regarding an account I used to have too.

06-18-2008, 06:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
Stev Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 144 Reputation: 7 *cBay Rating:*	with this volume it would be easy to have an automated system that runs a report and if it comes up with matches it sends it to a person. Who basicly just says no this info is very similar to a flagged account, they dont get their stuff. Paying that person 9.50/hr would pay for themselves in the first 30 min of their day of not giving away 'unearned' prizes. I'm not saying they do this, just saying it's very possible. It just makes logical business sense... whether or not MS is on the ball, i dont know. Just simply saying the ability to set up a query to trigger when u press the order button is pretty simple to send it to a person to review if the query yields any results.

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